[11] She was to bear the majority of Suleiman's children. [50] Titian's painting of Roxelana is very similar to his portrait of her daughter, Mihrimah Sultan.[49]. [11] After the wedding, the idea circulated that the sultan had limited his autonomy and was dominated and controlled by his wife. But at the end of the day, that's all irrelevant. [20] Hurrem became the only partner of the ruler and received the title of Haseki, which means the favorite. Here are some sources (regardless of their nature) they contradicts the motion that she wasn't called Sultan. WebAccording to some reports he died of natural causes, while others say that Mahidevran, the mother of Sehzade Mustafa gave the order to kill Sehzade Mehmet because he could take If, however, you can get an admin to permanently block the page from any further editing you may do so. Hurrem acted as Suleiman's advisor on matters of state, and seems to have had an influence upon foreign policy and on international politics. The motion that all these history books are dramatized or contain anachronism can't be true. [4] Hurrem's influence on Suleiman was so significant that rumors circulated around the Ottoman court that the sultan had been bewitched.[5]. Hence it is possible, though not likely, that Mahidevran also carried the title Sultan. hurrem. After Valide Sultan's death, Mahidevran Sultan takes the lead of the harem. [20] After the death of Mustafa, Mahidevran lost her status in the palace as the mother of the heir apparent and moved to Bursa. When Suleiman freed and married her, she became the Haseki Sultan (adding the word sultan to a woman's name or title indicated that she was a part of the dynasty). Mahidevran - The overshadowed Chief Consort - History of Royal In 1561, three years after Hurrem's death, the French author Gabriel Bounin wrote a tragedy titled La Soltane. Friday Social Amazing volunteers host Christmas dinner. In one of her letters to Suleiman, she informs him about the situation of the plague in the capital. Learn how your comment data is processed. Hatun is not a Title at all. [8] However it is clear,that Mahidevran Sultan also carried the title Sultan as she was the first main chief consort (Ba Kadn). Also please keep the recent source in mind about an interview with her alleged descendant. Khondoker Jobair (talk) 06:37, 16 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply], Keivan, do you really have access to the proposed source? After the death of Suleiman's other sons and his ascension to the throne in 1520 she acquired the rank of mother of the Sultan's eldest son. Mahidevran's name ( Turkish pronunciation: [mahidevan], Persian: ) means "one who is always beautiful", "one whose beauty never fades" or "beauty of the times" in Persian. Takabeg (talk) 09:10, 24 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], Someone needs to check the pronunciation: stress and vowel length. Timaru, 7910 I think she was chief consort but later lost her position though she remained first wife. In the 20112014 TV series Muhteem Yzyl, Hurrem Sultan is portrayed by Turkish-German actress Meryem Uzerli from seasons one to three. 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Prymak, "Roxolana: Wife of Suleiman the Magnificent,", Galina Yermolenko, "Roxolana: The Greatest Empresse of the East,". Because none of these people neither Ottomans nor foreign visitors were permitted into the inner circle of the imperial harem, which was surrounded by multiple walls, they largely relied on the testimony of the servants or courtiers or on the popular gossip circulating around Istanbul. I even request the deletion of dubious page of her alleged father but you are not admitting that you may be wrong here. Mahidevran had only one son, it was Mustafa. [33] Her rehabilitation had been possible after the death of Hurrem in 1558. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Mahidevran was chief consort as a mother of the oldest surviving son of Suleiman the Magnificent. 190.218.117.86 (talk) 05:26, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Excuse me one more time. Likewise Abdullah Frres's children were not slaves by nature. Her greatest philanthropical work was the Great Waqf of AlQuds, a large soup kitchen in Jerusalem that fed the poor. But with the same decree, Mustafa was appointed to govern Konya (middle Anatolia). Traditionally, when a new sultan rose to power, he would order all of his brothers killed in order to ensure there was no power struggle. Mahidevran was his most trustable advisor as well as chief of his harem. Amasya was one of the farthest provinces from the capital. The poem in the show was written by Mustafa's companion, Yayha Bey. In real life, Yayha Bey also did write a poem too. So it was not Suleiman himse In her second letter to Sigismund Augustus, written in response to his letter, Hurrem expresses in superlative terms her joy at hearing that the king is in good health and that he sends assurances of his sincere friendliness and attachment towards Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent. This tells how important and high ranking Birinci Kadins were (see any ottoman dictionary you like to see what Birinci Kadin means and what was their positions in early history of Ottoman.) It is traditionally believed that Hurrem, along with her daughter Mihrimah and her son-in-law Rustem, orchestrated Mustafas execution by turning his father, the Sultan, against him. Selim could have helped Mahidevran out of guilt that he lived and became Sultan while her son did not. Hope you got my point. Thank you From Khondoker Jobair. [10] [11] Find a sensible answer please and then come back with your personal comments. We can ask her! A short woman wearing expensive clothes and jewelry appears Hurrem: Agha? Where are we? (She looks closer at my face, noticing the I think it is obvious that the exception would have been made at that time for a non-Haseki consort to be called a Sultan. 2003:6A:6851:3301:2906:2827:AE05:4542 (talk) 03:31, 26 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], All the references can be found here [13]. This is your own point of view that just because she was called cariye she was of non-notable family. 190.218.117.86 (talk) 02:43, 4 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], "Denying a deceased person of its possible title" you just put yourself in evidence here. It was the first complex constructed in Istanbul by Mimar Sinan in his new position as the chief imperial architect. Peirce, Leslie (2017). The precise year that she entered the harem is unknown, but scholars believe that she became Suleiman's concubine around the time he became sultan in 1520. Now Mahidevran became a chief consort as a mother of the only prince in the Empire. And there is no problem in distinguishing the difference between her, Gulfem Hatun and Fulane Hatun. Around 1530, Mustafa was appointed to govern Manisa, as a part of his education and old Turkish tradition. [8] [9] Though Hurrem was more favored, Mahidevran was still a wife and mother of heir apparent. Worldandhistory (talk) 00:10, 25 September 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], You did not answer my first point, no where in the article does it say she belonged to a noble family, the article is now free from any claims of her being scion, the article simply focuses on her origins. If "Haseki Sultan" was created solely for Hurrem when they legally married, breaking a 200 hundred tradition of not marrying, why should anyone assume that other concubines of the sultan would start using "sultan" if they didn't marry him? In rare cases, an autopsy needs to be performed by a pathologist. While she was serving as the mother to heir apparent she was considered a Sultan's family member (Ottoman court etiquette), hence the title. Before Hrrem Sultan, every consort was called hatun. She imprinted her seal and watched the council meetings through a wire mesh window. Scholars thus agree that European artists created a visual identity for Ottoman women that was largely imagined. [11], Aside from her political concerns, Hurrem engaged in several major works of public buildings, from Makkah to Jerusalem (Al-Quds), perhaps modelling her charitable foundations in part after the caliph Harun al-Rashid's consort Zubaida. Basic Books. The Ottoman archives and privy purse records prove that she was Mahidevran Hatun, regardless that fact that she was the mother of the crown prince or had been once a favorite of Suleiman. [3][11][12] While Hrrem became Suleiman's new favorite and later his legal wife, Mahidevran Sultan retained the status of the crowned mother of Suleiman's eldest son,[13] and became Suleiman's "first wife". However, I added ""the most convincing theory"" was wrong I admit, therefore, I have changed that. Mustafa became verypopular in the region under the guidance of his mother. You are not helping in maintaining the neutrality, rather imposing your opinions extracted from your sources. Selim II (r. 15661574) likely never held anything against Mahidevran personally. She was his mothers rival, not his. Selim II, as depicted in a m Although he never visited Istanbul, he either imagined her appearance or had a sketch of her. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. In official account, not all consorts who was referred as SULTANA was legally married to Sultan nor was the Valide Sultan. According to the same tradition, Mahidevran had to leave Istanbul to accompany her son. She probably acted as the sultan's advisor, wrote diplomatic letters to King Sigismund II Augustus of Poland (r.15481572) and patronized major public works (including the Haseki Sultan Complex and the Hurrem Sultan Bathhouse). Breaking Ottoman tradition, he married Hurrem, making her his legal wife. [6] 113.203.150.188 (talk) 02:19, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Popular culture and Ottoman court etiquette are two different things. Worldandhistory (talk) 18:40, 23 September 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], --Phso2 (talk) 17:48, 24 September 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Hi again, sorry I noticed now you added "suggests she was a cariye, thus of non-notable family" I will have to remove it because the source only called her Cariye and did not specifically says that she was of non-notable family. Khondoker Jobair (talk) 06:13, 16 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]. We cannot overlook them. 16th-century women. And Mahidevran was the proud mother of Sehzade Mustafa,who was the most potential and talented heir apparent to the throne.And Mahidevran was not like the other Consorts of Suleiman,like Gulfem or Fulane.After the death of the sons of other consorts by diseases She was the mother of only son of Suleiman the magnificent and according to the ottoman tradition sje was Suleiman's Bas kadin,which was the most powerful position for a Sultan's consort before creation and after abolition of the title Haseki Sultan.As Leslie P. Pierce said that during Suleiman's reign the title for Queen mother, Princesses and Sultan's chief consort changed to Sultan from Hatun.And other ordinary consorts of Sultan held the title Hatun.And Mahidevran Sultan was favorite and chief consort of Suleiman before hurrem,and she was the mother of crown prince of the ottoman empire. [33] It is also rumored that Hurrem Sultan conspired against Mustafa with the help of her daughter and son-in-law Rustem Pasha; they wanted to portray Mustafa as a traitor who secretly contacted the Shah of Iran. 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In the times of Suleyman, not everyone could be addressed that way. Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.101.0.179 (talk) 11:44, 12 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], If the modifiers of this page can identify this reference, then please update. Depriving someone of their last name or title for your own satisfaction is NOT just, it's highly misleading and causes conflict with Ottoman history. Dear Phso 2,I think i have made the issue clear which is about the royal woman "Mahidevran" and you shuould not have any doubt or confusion or Question regarding this subject. She did served as a "cheif consort" (bash Kadin) before Haseki Hurrem Sultan. In 1520 after the death of Selim I, Suleiman moved to Istanbul to succeed his father, his court followed him afew weeks later. Whatever sources we can find, half of them supports the Hatun theory, the other half supports Sultan theory. Moreover, remaining in Istanbul, she moved out of the harem located in the Old Palace (Eski Saray) and permanently moved into the Topkap Palace after a fire destroyed the old harem. [6][7][8] Her native language was Ruthenian, the precursor to modern Ukrainian. Even as a consort, her power was comparable with the most powerful woman of the Imperial Harem, who by tradition was the sultan's mother or valide sultan. Hurrem and Mahidevran were 2 main consorts. [34], Although the stories about Hurrem's role in executions of Ibrahim, Mustafa, and Kara Ahmed are very popular, actually none of them are based on first-hand sources. The series follows the reign of Sultan Sleyman (r. 1520-1566), known in the West as Suleiman the Magnificent. I do NOT understand. She frequently accompanied him as a political adviser. Something that interests me is how a popular notion can sound very appealing. First of all, many claims as to what happened in the harem are comple 'the Ruthenian one'; c. 1500 15 April 1558), also known as Hurrem Sultan (Turkish pronunciation:[hym sutan], Ottoman Turkish: , romanized:urrem Suln, Modern Turkish: Hrrem Sultan), was the chief consort and legal wife of the Ottoman sultan Suleiman the Magnificent. I called both the contributor and the gallery to show any link to Rosne and so far I get none. [25], After the death of Suleiman's mother, Hafsa Sultan, in 1534, Hurrem became the most trusted news source of Suleiman. Mustafa had a great sympathy towards his half-brothers, especially to Beyazt and Cihangir (the youngest ones). Thank you 113.203.177.1 (talk) 18:32, 28 March 2016 (UTC) Glbahar (given name) 1500s births. Burial. Hurrem's contemporaries describe her as a woman who was strikingly good-looking, and different from everybody else because of her red hair. During those decades the Venetian Republic was following the Ottoman dynastic news closely due to their close links with the empire. Best R. - Worldandhistory (talk) 16:08, 25 September 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], @Phso2, your provided sources does not particularly points at M's father. Phone: This section is full of "possible" origin theories, so mentioning any ""possible theory"" is no violation of any principal. She was the first imperial consort to receive the title Haseki Sultan. Marvin died of natural causes after reportedly being hospitalized after experiencing chest pains On 13th March 2021, Marvin Hagler unexpectedly passed away in his New Hampshire home. - Worldandhistory (talk) 16:33, 28 September 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], @Phso2: Two of your sources are at stake (Colin Iber's and Peirce's), please read page 136 of Colin's book, this gives definition of Slave in general term, so calling any member of Sultan's family a slave does not necessarily makes them a slave by origin, and P simply used a text from Alberi, P herself only called M a concubine. WebHe often forgets his lines or forgets to show up altogether, so the others have to look for him. Retrieverlove (talk) 08:43, 28 December 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], "[] and the Sultan's favorite or chief consorts changed to Sultan []. I asked a simple question and you failed to answer because you cant. Hurrem gave birth to her first son Mehmed in 1521 (who died in 1543) and then to four more sons, destroying Mahidevran's status as the mother of the sultan's only son. Two of her letters to King Sigismund II Augustus of Poland (reigned 15481572) have survived, and during her lifetime the Ottoman Empire generally had peaceful relations with the Polish state within a PolishOttoman alliance. Address: She was presented to Suleiman when he was still a prince. Manisa was the most important province, and according to the tradition, only the favourite prince could be appointed there. "She was said to have been the most beautiful girl in the dynasty and out-stood in beauty in a land which was known for it. I oppose changing the title from Sultan to Hatun. 125.209.82.212 (talk) 20:52, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], It is stated that kadins and hasekis carried equal rights in the harem, so why are you so passionate to call her sultana if she wasn't married to Suleyman? This tradition was called Sancak Beylii. I am sorry but Facts do NOT leave room for doubts. With Suleiman, she had five sons and one daughter. I got this text from this reference if anyone have an actual book name to cite then please update. Learn more about merges. Mahidevran tried to save her only grandson, but she failed again. [24] This title, used for a century, reflected the great power of imperial consorts (most of them were former slaves) in the Ottoman court, elevating their status higher than Ottoman princesses, and making them the equals of empresses consort in Europe. [20] She pleads with the King to trust her envoy Hassan Aa who took another message from her by word of mouth. [44] This tragedy marks the first time the Ottomans were introduced on stage in France. However, her philanthropy is in contrast to this as she cared for the poor. It was not because Hafsa Sultan was firmly against this unification, but because it was not allowed for a concubine to rise above the status of the Valide Sultan (Queen Mother). Hurrem Haseki Sultan, or Roxelana, is well-known both in modern Turkey and in the West, and is the subject of many artistic works. [3] She entered the Imperial Harem, rose through the ranks and became the favourite of Sultan Suleiman. It is clear you don't have the intention to make this wikipedia page historically accurate. If you ask about Istanbul, the city still suffers from the plague; however, it is not like the previous one. Prince Idar took this as an opportunity to make a good relationship with their rapidly spending neighboring dynasty, as young Prince Sulieman was only a few year older (if not the same age) than his most beautiful daughter. God willing, it will go away as soon as you return to the city. 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