They control your life and money and everything before you know it. You dont say Pat (who uses he pronouns) just because there are Pats with she or they pronouns. When it came to the "pre-management meeting" I was hooked. But try to find a work proofreading buddy. They tell you that you can work out a deal regarding the base pay, but that is NOT true. Online, offline, email, or postal. What AAM said. (Im agender and use any pronouns in an I truly dont care sense, but I have multiple friends who transitioned away from any pronouns because they felt like people were just defaulting to the ones they were used to and denying their gender. Everyones experience will be different, but normalizing they pronounces, as well as specifying ones pronouns even and especially when one uses the defaults, is an easy and helpful action for allies to take. Im in the same frame of mind as you and WellRed. I work in quality. Consumers love to do business with someone that can admit mistakes and state how they made improvements. There were 8 steps to the system and when I failed, I must have failed one of the cult items. I often see small typo/grammatical errors in our management presentations. That said, you might find it interesting to talk to her anyway you can get a lot of good data on the job market and your own positioning in it by talking to recruiters (and who knows, maybe she has an offer that youd be interested in once you hear it). Or they have one, but not all of them were magna cum laude, ok? 51% of employees would recommend working at Bachem to a friend and 46% have a positive outlook for the business. At a certain point your brain sees what it is expecting instead of what is actually there. Where I have to rush to complete a file same day, I try to work on a different file if I can for 1/2 an hour and then recheck it. They will invite candidates back that they know are not a fit in order to keep their leader motivated, the last thing they want is a leader who thinks they are just doing sales. LW 3, I cant imagine its ok for the HR manager to go into personnel files and pull out information to share. There are many ways to learn a skill; a college education is only one, an expensive one, and not even always the best one. But to start disparaging education and educated people as a result both takes it too far and misses the point. I think the issue that people are taking is that getting a degree isnt the cure for OP#3s problems that their HR person has serious boundary issues, primarily, nor their stated insecurity about their lack of degree despite their professional success. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Why Ripoff Report will not release author information! While my own thoughts would be to go over the HR Blabbermouths head, I dont know if it would do any good. how much social media use at work is too much? As stated in blog articles and reviews about Cydcor, they do indeed have a secretary at the front literally calling applicants for interviews as you're in the CEO's office interviewing (you can hear the pitch they gave you over the phone word for word through the wall). oP 1, they are not going to offer you HR experience. Just use the pronouns. 8. Everything is weird. They're the one making the most money at the location, and all they're worried about is paying off google/yahoo/separate PR firms to make that location/business appear legit. You only want to be socializing with positive attitude people. Jane Mark Smith (he/they) may be the best way to acknowledge this going forward. Above accounts are 100% corrrect. I know this is really late, but I need to share my experience with this dogshit scam of a company. Especially nowadays I feel like theres been enough of a shift that if not having a degree isnt holding you back, then dont bother unless you really want to get a degree. To make money, you act like your trainer and pitch and get sales. Im just wondering if there were any such letters previously. Why on earth would they take on a commitment like that for no reason? You dont need an audience either. Being able to put a different company name on your resume might mitigate the problem somewhat, but if a savvy interviewer digs into what the company really is, its going to be a problem. I also am unclear on what to do when the two pronouns arent the same (I cant think of a better way to word this) and have been attempting Internet searches recently to figure it out, to no avail. This is the first time I have encountered this and I want to respect my student and sell them in a good way in my letter without the impression Im talking about some other kid. I had applied to this "company" branch through my University's private job/internship database (my sheisty employer was able to post an ad there because he was a Temple Alumnus). OP #2 others have already offered solid tips and techniques for double (and triple) checking your work. Like, genuinely upset and annoyed that this sign said that they had a doctorate. I work in a field where everyone tends to have a specific degree one I did not have. RED FLAG 5. You could say Susan Smith (he/they) as part of the letter. If its the latter, Id raise that with your boss that youre not catching errors because everything is a rush. (UK back into lockdown and Ive had panic attacks most of the day). One woman called him out on it as she had just bought her paper the day before- in response, this salesman of Cydcor for 3 years, was baffled as to what to do besides ask her twice to confirm that the cheaper price was not a special sale price. It would either be he put his resume in his briefcase or they put their resume in their briefcase. spend Sunday chatting with your crew to keep them in the business. First, I've had such great opportunities at the company to work in multiple roles and departments. Weve got the 8 steps, the three 5s, acronyms for customer types and impulse factors, and if you dont use every single one of them in the same way with each customer (but also make sure to respond flexibly to every scenario!) Yours may as well. If I go to him and tell him that HR employee A is a problem, hell tell me to work with As manager to train and coach them. Actually, as far as the first round interviews go they are just looking to fill 2nd round interview slots in for their leaders. I had a job that was way more chaotic than this job. We have a thriving corporate culture as dynamic as the people who live and breathe it every day. ), some who have a prefered set and a set they dont mind, and some who just like all the pronouns they use about equally. making it bold or changing the colour) Id simply reach out and say that you want to make sure that everything in their college application is as uniform as possible so its easy for people reviewing the application to see that the letter is indeed intended for them. As if a decade+ of relevant work experience AND an MBA count for nothing because of an unrelated bachelors degree from last century! Keymaster, off topic but I want you to know that whenever I come across your name in the comment section I perk up internally because I know I am about to hear a comment that is thoughtful, insightful, compassionate, interesting, and witty. also there will be unexplained "cancellations" on your checks so its even worse than you expect. Cydcor. But are you rushing because you want to be done or because youre not given enough time for the work? RED FLAG 4. There are some types of errors where that wouldnt help I guess, but I would expect any document going to senior executives to have already passed through at least two sets of eyes. The branch I interviewed at had different titles for the sales position, along with other differences: there was no mention of working weekends, and there were 2 in-office interviews instead of 1 in-office interview (which all seem unusual but they have to be constantly changing their practices to fool people). OP1, with a MLM on your resume, employers may question your integrity. I should mention that I am a few years from retirement (yay!) OP2, if its not typos or the sort of mistakes that proofreading or reading out loud can catch, maybe start a process of having someone else check over your work? I got a much better paying job because I saw my worth. Sign in. The part about recycled a letter and forgot to change the pronouns makes me think that the OP is worried about using he to refer to Susan ( which may indeed look like a recycled letter in a way that they wouldnt. Honestly if an executive leader is calling out a minor typo in public, they are sometimes just acting like an ass. What was the work purpose for this? The reason why your company is brand new is that theyre having to continually move and change names to keep from either being a) shut down due to legal challenges or b) having enough of a rep that people know the truth about them. How those businesses take care of those complaints is what separates good businesses from the rest. Wrinardo McKennedy has now scammed everyone in Illinois and moved on to Alabama! One other point: All those folks with PhDs? ANY personal information shared in the break room by an HR hack is grossly inappropriate. All these red flags so far, BUT I am tired of living with my parents and applying for jobs; it seemed like a Godsend to an impatient young recent college graduate second guessing his forte in science. At the very start of finding out about the illegal goings on I got very distressed at the thought of all the people whod never get their money back. The HR person was being a jerk, and I am sorry your coworkers joined in rather than pushing back on that the way they should have. Ex-Cydcor here- surprised I haven't seen more posts about it. Is that how thats typically meant to be used? If the office was independent than the client would send the wire directly to the office. If such a culture doesnt currently exist at your company, you can try starting it! Im pretty confident in my intelligence and work ethic, but it can be hard to keep the chip off my shoulder sometimes. Youre not done until youve caught all the errors. Workforce supply and demand has changed more than the actual job requirements have. Im a professional editor. The notion that if you haven't made a sale today, you have failed. If you were in sales and not HR it might be one thing, but HR for a horribly run pyramid company is not ideal experience. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. Also, is there someone you can ask to be your proofreading buddy? Just as he got done showing me the fifth video in a row, a suggested video came up saying "Is Cydcor a Scam: YES". I agree. The pyramids are disguised as local marketing companies under names names like ABC Marketing or A+ Consultants but theyre all ran and controlled by Cydcor. Monster, Careerbuilder, and Hotjobs have caught on to this and have given Cydcor rules on what content is allowed in their affiliates ads. Cydcor is a multi level marketing firm. (This has weirdly been an issue with some queer friends of mine. My guess is that no initial investment probably just means they dont start taking your money until a little later. I think it would be fine to say in a subsequent interview that you left because you learned it was a multi-level marketing company and you had ethical qualms with that. All of their reviews are the same people. One of them doesnt have a degree, and yet here they all are in the same place. I don't see it as a con, yet for some, they may perceive the strive to continue to improve as a con so it may not be a fit for all people. Seconding this, and now I see youre a Dragon Age fan? Its possible she had some legitimate use for compiling that data but it sounds like she was sharing it a gossipy way, which (a) isnt okay and (b) undermines the trust people need to have in HR to handle information sensitively. There are personal development trainings offered to help each person succeed. So even just putting it down and taking a 10 minute break, getting up for a cup of water and stretching my legs, I can see much clearer when I sit back down. Unfortunately, there are reasons to leave it on for many of us. Typically, the fear of making mistakes coupled with the rush to complete the work came from a place of dread, fueled by the need to be on the offensive with higher-ups who were unforgivingly critical. No compensation for gas. Bite, bight, or blight I hope it does that to this HR person too. The Cydcor affiliates call themselves "direct sales and marketing firms" but it has been documented by people who worked and interviewed with the affiliates that the primary focus is on door-to-door sales. I would be VERY surprised if they moved her to HR in 6 months. That is the demanding side of the solution. I believe that the group I was in fits many of the above criteria. The first is what they wrote about, the second is something that does not require digging into tens of thousands of dollars of expense to solve. Corporate Advocacy Program - Verified Status, How To Get Your Report Featured On All Report Pages. *Side note, did you have to do THREE 1-on-1 coaching meetings with other people in the company every week? The reasons are multiple. ", 29899 Agoura Road, Suite 100, Agoura Hills, CA 91301, 1994-2023 cydcor all rights reserved | privacy policy | terms of use | sitemap, Award winning partner to Fortune 500 companies, 25+ years of customer acquisition and retention expertise, Ensures compliance with call center and in-person sales and regulatory requirements, Leverages Salesforce world's #1 CRM platform, Offers low risk, high return compensation models, Deep understanding of products, services, and customers, Ability to quickly launch and execute programs and changes, Capacity to expand from pilot to full-scale campaigns. If your problem is the latter though, like Alison suggested, Id raise the issue with your boss, preferably ASAP. Upon submitting my resume and reading about the company online i felt as if it was a good opportunity. And FWIW my degree cost thousands of dollars and I have never used it. I think in a college application where Susan probably has a chance to put in both his birth certificate name and the name hes currently using, the lw does not need to take on this responsibility unless asked. Cydcor achieves success in meeting its clients' customer acquisition goals by creating a culture of opportunity within a team-oriented, positive, nurturing environment - which benefits clients and employees alike. OP#5, I always reply to recruiters on LinkedIn, because I have a strong suspicion about LinkedIns algorithms. When people complain about the rising cost of a degree, they are right. Theyve mastered how to prey on young people with entrepreneurial spirit. Often I miss them in many read-throughs because reading it out, even in my head, sounds correct. Tell them specifically that you need them to point out errors of assumptions, context, unwritten history. The group is preoccupied with making money. For mean, that means making $1,200 weekly paychecks and developing people into not just great salespeople but great people all around. OP2 Im curious about how senior management (ie, the audience) is able to call you out on the mistakes if this is the first time theyre seeing the presentation? OP4, Im non-binary and use they/them pronouns and I disagree slightly with Alison. So Im totally supportive of the OP and think that the HR reps move was a jerk move. It was an "American Sports College" with 27 korean boys (who spoke no English) as their student body. If thats the case, dont beat yourself up. I was furious because I never would have used my precious PTO for this purpose had I known it was for a MLM. I figured I'd let it play out until I began my "management" duties. Signing up people for things that are not necessarily to their benefit. My boss cried. Get backup. I walk in for the first interview and make friends with the secretary- it was obvious that she banged the CEO for his job, it was just uncanny Im terrible at social things so I cannot describe this chemistry in words. Got out of there SO fast. 2: I suggest getting your computer to read stuff out to you. I still had bills to pay. Id only be laughing at myself if I pointed out that I spent all that time and money on the degree, and have ended up in exactly the same position as everyone else. I didnt last long there. Some people in this life have been told that college is not for them or that they are not smart enough for college. My business is reasonably education oriented and no one gives a crap who went to what school or has what degree. A good place to work for GroupM being a leader in the Media business, it is one of the best places to work for and there are immense opportunities for one to learn and grow across platforms and mediums. Sign in. - Learn a lot of great people skills, doing door to door makes you very comfortable around strangers and people in general - Very high turnover rate doing door to door, likely able to be hired very easy if . We were told to be "prepared" for the entire day, we were not told we would be following someone around listening to him pitch sales to people who for the most part weren't interested, and in the process would walk about 5 miles.You definitely need to be detirmined and have an assholish attitude by interupting store owners while they are trying to work.After the day, I felt like the job wasn't for me, but she was saying I would be a good candidate and how great the company was. Cydcor is known to be awful. We recently explained to our US offices that we needed to make education information private in our systems (only visible by manager chain and HR) for this exact reason. My current boss noticed. do NOT rush your review for errors like this. And while usually no one finds anything earth-shattering that needs fixing, there are good discussions that come out of the process about methods, caveats, etc. I am selling a car thru an Is this a scam? And watch out for autocorrect! Well I can tell you from experience that it's definitely not a scam. Just go with whatever the student wants you to use; if its someone asking you for a recommendation you probably have enough relationship that that should be an easy conversation. If youre more senior, I would talk about how you learned from the experience and do a lot more research on companies now. Over the years, the employers tended more and more to require a degree I, as a more recent employee had degrees but many of the most valued and experienced employees never got one, and as time went on the economic benefit of getting one decreased. Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members. Whether or not to raise it with your manager depends on how often its happening. Hope that helps someone in the comments. When I started, my university was state supported, then state encouraged and currently state acknowledged. For powerpoints I print notes pages with 6 or 8 slides per page. Cydcor Pyramid Scheme Cydcor affiliates use deceptive job ads stating marketing training when job is actually door-to-door sales. Somebody asked the identity of the employee for reasons of mirth and cruelty, I expect, not because it was pertinent. 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